Ken Snelling wrote:
I think this is really a misconception. And pretending that it exists just sets up folks to be angry when one group or the other "violates" an agreement that no one has actually made, or even implied that they've made.
You are of course correct, however I think many fans "wish it were true" so they could close this chapter in a very painfull chapter in the Harnic saga. However, what fans may want and what is actually true can be quite different things.
Ken Snellings wrote:
CGI hasn't ventured outside of Harn since the split...but they're clearly working on Harnic Kingdoms and haven't finished that plan yet. KP started working on Chelemby and they haven't finished that yet. Once somebody finishes the large scope project they're working on..who knows what comes next?
Given the considerable amount of work to be done by both sides, it may be a while before the "lack of an agreement" manifests itself. I think the likely "battleground" (and I truly hope it does not become one), is Melderyn. At HarnCon IV, Robin was selling new (expanded) maps of Cherafir. It is my understanding (and I sincerely invite anyone to correct me if I miss understood this) is that at one point, Robin did consider a "ceasefire" and was willing to let CGI take over all of Ivinia and Harn EXCEPT Melderyn
. It is obvious to me that Melderyn holds a special place in Robin's heart and his greater master plan for Lythia (particularly Emelrene). I think if there is any "flashpoint" that would reignite the open conflict between CGI and KP, it would be one or the other side releasing Melderyn. However, it appears at least a few years away.
Ken Snellings wrote:
As customers we can vote with our walets and we can try to communicate what we'd like to see next, but I don't think we have a calling to provide 'boundaries" and then expect others to abide by them.
Personally, I have doubts as to whether a "boycott" could work with Harn. I think we are all just a little too nerdy, complete-ists, to risk missing a new release, no matter the politics. Also, the anonymity of the internet allows us to proclaim we are supporting the boycott while secretly buying from both sides. It is not like one side is going to tell the other who is violating the boycott!
Michael the Defender wrote:
I've been waiting on "promised" material for HarnWorld since 1983. I personally don't care who comes up with what for what area as long as:
a) stuff that has already written doesn't continually get rehashed
b) things start getting completed in a timely manner
c) We see some development of the parts of the world that have been largely ignored and neglected.
d) Things continue to be realtively well written.
Even as a freelance writer for CGI, I will be the first to agree with you Michael, things are too slow. Ideally, CGI would get everything back into print within a year and move on to new horizons. However, given the current slow editorial process, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
I actually encouraged Robin to accept the split with CGI, because I personally believe he got the far better part of the deal. I agree, we need to open new worlds and vistas to Harn players. Harn is a very small place (especially for traditional roleplayers with itchy feet). I want to see new kingdoms, empires and even continents opened up to gamers. Because of this, I believe KP is best placed to actually do new and exciting locations.
The CGI versus KP dispute is a fascinating topic that Leitchy unfortunately feels has run its course. Can this topic be re-opened on another forum or is it official (i.e. Leitchy) policy to avoid the CGI versus KP dispute altogether?
I am not sure what this would accomplish. The NRC/CGI debate was long and didn't actually solve much. The only thing that was actually agreed to is that only two people can actually resolve this dispute:N. Robin Crossby and Tom Dalgliesh
As fans (even as writers, artists and mappers), we can discuss what we would LIKE
to see happen, what we THINK
should happen and what we RECOMMEND
should happen, but in the end, these are only our opinions. Tom virtually never visits this site. Grant visits very rarely and mostly just to make announcements. I don't know how much Robin visits the site, however he has not made many comments since the NRC/CGI debate ended.
So, again, I wonder out loud what good would come of reopening the debate? Personally, I believe that it will just reopen old wounds, re-ignite bad feelings and polarise the community. And the question is, would it solve anything?
As long as we're (supposedly) talking about upcoming products, may I make a hopeless, indeed laughable, suggestion that one or the other of these companies complete Trierzon Regional Module (TRM)? Fanon is best at small-scale work, and so TRM really needs to be canonical, as it would thus open up the fourth map to more detailed fanonical exploration.
I can definitively say that CGI is NOT
working on Trierzon, however
...that being said...I can say that based on rumours I have heard
I feel more confident than anytime since 1983 that we will