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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:51 am 
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Leitchy wrote:
My guess is they have bazillions still in stock after 25 years and they want to get rid of them. I guarantee they won't want to print more of them. Working from very old memories here (which means treat with suspicion) but I think Tharda was the Harn kingdom module which was the worst seller of all.


Seems unlikely. The old kingdom modules have been out of stock for over a decade. You are probably mixing Tharda with Rethem. The Rethem module was available long after the others sold out.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:49 am 
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ogier wrote:
Seems unlikely. The old kingdom modules have been out of stock for over a decade. You are probably mixing Tharda with Rethem. The Rethem module was available long after the others sold out.

Rethem sold out first, as far as I know. Maybe you mean Orbaal.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:55 am 
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ogier wrote:
Leitchy wrote:
My guess is they have bazillions still in stock after 25 years ...
Seems unlikely. The old kingdom modules have been out of stock for over a decade...
From what I have been told by CGI, they have many copies remaining of the map that was part of the original Tharda Republic Module, even though the module itself has been sold out for years. These maps are indeed the ones that will be part of the soon-to-be-released Hârn Classics Thardic Republic article.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:43 am 
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Received another email newsletter, this one dedicated solely to the Tharda Republic release, which contains info that is quite pleasing. It will be released on thick paper stock, like the Evael module and they are considering making such paper stock a permanent bonus feature for their subscribers. It has also been decided that due to the positive response, it will not just be shipped to HârnClassic subscribers, but also to HârnQuest subscribers. As I have a subscription to both HârnQuest and HârnClassic, I hope I don't end up having two copies sent my way.

Also included was a five page sampler of the new release and even if it is just a modernized version of the original Tharda article, this will be a most welcome addition to my Hârn collection. All of the pages feature full colour, therefore even the page headers are burgundy with a yellow trim as opposed to the regular greyscale.

Kudos to everyone involved in the production, from what little I have seen it's very sweet.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:00 am 
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Aghori wrote:
ogier wrote:
Seems unlikely. The old kingdom modules have been out of stock for over a decade. You are probably mixing Tharda with Rethem. The Rethem module was available long after the others sold out.

Rethem sold out first, as far as I know. Maybe you mean Orbaal.

It didn't sell out first but it sold out before Orbaal (a bit hasty of me), and Azadmere is still available isn't it? :wink:

So CGI have a stock of maps and colour plates perhaps that was left when the old modules where printed. Wonder if they sit on more and are willing to part with it? I would buy extra copies of the old kingdom maps if they were for sale. =P~


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:45 am 
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Azadmere and Chybisa are still available. Orbaal was the most recent sell out (I'm nearly certain).

That makes some sense, as those are the three kingdoms that had two printings in the original run.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:10 am 
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Well,

Marsh Lawton wrote:
It has also been decided that due to the positive response, it will not just be shipped to HârnClassic subscribers, but also to HârnQuest subscribers. As I have a subscription to both HârnQuest and HârnClassic, I hope I don't end up having two copies sent my way.


it seems to be a typographically pimped-up version of the original article. That's why CGI sorts it to HârnClassic, not to HârnQuest.
It's nice for those who do not already have the original, but nothing of interest to me, since I already have the original edition.
I don't need another copy.

And it is definitely a really bad business decision to surprise HârnQuest subscribers with a 3-days (!) time frame to opt out of something they generally do not want (for otherwise they'd also subscribed HârnClassic)!

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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:58 am 
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. The price point is the same as the other revised kingdoms, but it's shorter, and not updated. Then again, color does add some value. But getting the same old map isn't that useful. The heavier paper is nice, but I'm not sure if it's necessary.

I think my biggest problem is putting it in a binder matching the other three revised kingdoms. That would seem to imply that a truly updated Tharda is nowhere on the product horizon, unless the update will be constructed as pages 33-64 or so, to be added to the binder. This is just speculation.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:18 am 
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The expanded Kaldor, Kanday, and Rethem kingdom modules are listed at $29.99. I didn't get the email being discussed here so I don't know what CGI is charging for this Classic version of Tharda, but I am guessing it is less.

Edit: I was wrong. It looks like the price is $29.99 for this.

Getting the "same old map" and "not updated" material may not be useful to anyone who already has the original Tharda Republic Module, but that is really not who this is intended for. That original module has been out of print for quite a while and releasing the material as a Hârn Classic allows those who don't have it to finally own a copy. If you already have the old one, you won't miss anything by not getting the new one, other than some new clan heraldry and a new (color) layout.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:31 am 
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Text from first email:

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Republic of Tharda

Continuing the process of updating and reprinting out-of-print Hârn material, the next HârnClassic release will be Tharda. This edition is 32 pages, laden with color and includes an ORIGINAL 17x22 map of the area.
To order, either subscribe to HârnClassic or just let us know you want Tharda by replying to this email... (It will not be shipped automatically to HârnQuesters).
Tharda is the name given generally to west-central Hârn, primarily the Thard River basin. It includes parts of the kingdoms of Rethem and Kanday and all of the Thardic Republic. The natural vegetation is mixed woodland and forest, but includes some rugged coniferous highlands. The Thardic Republic is bordered to the south by the feudal Kingdom of Kanday and to the west by the Kingdom of Rethem. The Republic has won a war with Kanday within the last decade, and relations with Rethem are tense, but the present state of affairs is a watchful peace. Two tribal nations also border the Republic; the wary and often violent Gozyda, and the ruthless Tulwyn.


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Hello subscriber,

Due to overwhelmingly positive response to the planned new edition of Tharda, originally intended only for Harn Classic subscribers, we WILL be sending this module also to HarnQuest subscribers.

The new edition is a significant improvement from the original article. The new edition has 32 FULL COLOR pages, an original 17x22 inch Tharda map, and ships in a 3-ring Tharda binder. The map is available in limited quantities and only to our current HC and HQ subscribers.

The price will be $29.99 shipped free in the USA/Canada. International customers must pay a postage surcharge of $10 (because the binders are heavy).

The pages are going to be printed on thick paper (90# index). We are considering making this superior paper a permanent bonus for our subscribers only. We do like our subscribers and would like some more.

A PDF sample of the revised layout is attached to whet your appetite...

Anyone wishing to opt-out of this item should do so before February 1.



So as a Harn Classic, this seems reasonable - do some cleanup in order to bring something old back in print. Based on page count + color + map, this would seem to be about a $20 item.

But I think the binder and thick paper, while not being expanded/updated/revised, may not add $10 in value, and in any event, having at the same price point as the other kingdoms just doesn't feel right.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:47 am 
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I don't like that they mix HârnClassic and HârnQuest like this.

Sure I can buy "old" materials, getting them fresh, but $39.99 is a little bit to much for something I already have.

But it is good that they they sell "old" modules again for those that don't have them.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:11 pm 
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If its a prelude to some nice location articles set in Tharda, I don't really mind. I only have a photocopy version of the old Tharda anyway. For new gamers looking to set their campaigns in the west, having all three kingdom modules available is definitely a plus. Perhaps a later article on the rich and powerful of Tharda (with illos) might update the information on the republic to the same general level as there is for Kanday and Rethem.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:19 pm 
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I dunno £19 plus shipping of £6.40 seems ok. :wink:
Plus Tharda is the only module in my collection that I can't find. It's probably in a box in the store somewhere. :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:26 am 
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I opted out of the binder, since I file all my stuff in Aussie standard 2-ring binders (which I got for free). Saved the $10 postal fee anyway. Thanks to Grant for being flexible to make the sale/donation - credit card charge has come through for the correctly amended amount. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:21 pm 
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Hi Everyone,

I just noticed CG hit my card today. Anybody know anything about the upcoming Harn Quest? I've been out of the loop for a while.

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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:55 pm 
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Anborn wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I just noticed CG hit my card today. Anybody know anything about the upcoming Harn Quest? I've been out of the loop for a while.

Anborn



See here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12768


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming Products?
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:10 pm 
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Thanks!

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